Comments on: Stepping back https://letterclub.games/2023/04/23/stepping-back/ Letters about game design Sun, 23 Apr 2023 19:32:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: Zeigfreid https://letterclub.games/2023/04/23/stepping-back/#comment-284 Sun, 23 Apr 2023 19:32:01 +0000 https://letterclub.games/?p=523#comment-284 This is great, I went back and re-read the “to me, fine art is a… game” comment. Maybe we should enshrine that and the subsequent messages somewhere?

I have this feeling though… what about process? There is a joy in painting in producing any work of art and it varies with form. Ceramics, tiny lego robots, musical instruments… the pleasure of the process of making art varies with each of them. Making a guitar is a very different process from playing one, which is different again from listening to music. I feel like there is a symmetry here, like on both sides of the painting there can be this “kick”. In my experience, when I’m doing something and it “clicks” that sets my mind on fire. This is often the pleasure of puzzle games, right, the “ah-ha” moment, rather than or in addition to the “kick”… making braid was a process, full of its own pleasures and feelings, playing it is a process with pleasures and feelings, and then appreciating it afterwards, letting it kick your brain with its content, is another thing.

I guess we’ve called the “process” of play a rollercoaster up above. But is that it? Feels cartesian, like trying to separate the music from the instruments. Suppose we want to play with love as you suggest, and we make a game. That process must be what matters to us, right? Because there’s not way the author’s mind can receive the same “kick” as the consumer’s mind, considering all the context. Maybe that process of playing love on a game-o-phone and some goal out at optical infinity.

And then we have a game, and in making a game we’ve made a work of art that can give folks a kick but we’ve also made an instrument, a new form, that someone must learn to play.

In some cases they have to learn to play so they can get they key on level 4 to unlock the door on level 6 so they can see a painting… but in other cases it is in the play that they get their kicks! A game player is like a painter with no canvas. Unless they record the activities of the game, they won’t end up with a painting. They’ve played an instrument, felt the pleasure of process, been kicked, perhaps, but are left otherwise empty-handed. It’s art that requires the audience to become an artist in a different medium! Like if the only way to appreciate a painting was to play music to it.

I think I feel a letter forming!

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By: Jack https://letterclub.games/2023/04/23/stepping-back/#comment-283 Sun, 23 Apr 2023 17:27:51 +0000 https://letterclub.games/?p=523#comment-283

but I always found myself getting sucked into the minutia – the beauty – of form

But still I haven’t said ‘what does it mean’ … Beyond the form of this meaning.

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